八百七十一章 钱重物轻
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资政殿这场两府集议,章越位列其中听着两府诸公发表高论,除了他以外,还有三司使曾布,以及同修起居注的章惇。
王安石罢相后力荐章惇,如今已是知制诰之职,之后在曾布与吕惠卿市易司的桉子上,章惇作出了支持吕惠卿的决定,又被吕惠卿委以判军器监之职。
章越看了一眼立在屏风旁的章惇。
吕惠卿之所以了得,因为他不是一个人,他代表的是朝堂上所有支持新党的官员,王安石没结的党,吕惠卿结了。
你可以得罪了一人,却无法得罪整个党派。
这就是为何吕惠卿在天子面前,可以完全不把冯京,曾布,甚至昭文相公韩绛也不放在眼底。
同时王安石与吕惠卿之辩才,放眼庙堂上也没几人是他们对手。
冯京先是驳斥了吕惠卿筑折二钱的弊端:“汉时吕后先铸八株钱,后改为五株钱,民皆道汉不如秦,王莽篡汉铸大泉,一枚大泉可兑五十枚五株钱,强索民间,最后天下分崩,刘备入蜀身无分文,铸直百五株,强令兑一百枚蜀五株……之后蜀汉又铸太平百钱…”
章越听冯京所讲都是官府从民间抢钱的事。
盛世的一个标准就是官方铸币都非常精良。
以明朝的永乐通宝举例,这是公认的良币。那是明朝国力最强大的时候。
汉朝通行是五株钱,但吕后一开始想铸八株钱,这也是秦朝制币,但当时国力不允许,所以五株钱当八株钱用。
王莽篡汉发行“大泉五十”,但大泉只及五铢钱的两个半重,却要当五十个用。所以王莽每发行一枚大钱,就等于从民间抢走四十七个半五铢钱。
最后就是刘备入蜀,就是自己铸一枚抵民间一百枚了,这利润比王莽还过分。
至于王安石,吕惠卿所提的折二钱,吃相还是比较好看的,新铸一枚铜钱抵你两枚铜钱用。
此外还有铁钱当铜钱使的,往铜钱里掺铅的,这都是自汉唐以来官方铸币的优良传统。
总而言之,越是乱世官方铸币质量越差。不过王莽还是要点脸的,大泉五十工艺非常精良,至于刘大耳的直百五钱,那品相是公认的差,在后世的二手市场都卖不了几个钱,就这样还一枚抵一百枚。当然据说东吴还有大泉五千的品种。
吕惠卿道:“冯公以为我铸折二钱只是为了与民争利吗?这钱荒怎么办?朝廷屡下禁铜之令,却禁不了老百姓熔铜铸私钱,仁宗皇帝曾下旨,有一贯铜钱以上带至外国,则为首者处死,照道理说,铜钱应在国内流动才是,但冯公看到民间百姓用什么钱吗?都是平钱,铁钱,唯独不见铜钱。”
“臣听闻河东陕西之富室都藏铜钱不用,反而在民间使铁钱,这都是钱荒所至。之前熙宁元宝折二钱岂见乱之,我看来熙宁重宝要铸折三,折五,方可化解当今钱重物轻之局?”
吕惠卿的意思,我不是为了与百姓争利,我是真的为了国家解决钱荒的问题。折二还不够,我还要折三折五呢。
章越听了心底呵呵,另一个时空历史上蔡京第一次罢相是因为发行‘当十钱’,你吕惠卿看来也不远了嘛。
曾布道:“陛下,夫钱本无用,而物为之用;钱本无轻重,而物为之轻重……”
章越听了曾布不愧是三司使果然有点东西啊,这句话与金银天然不是货币,而货币天然就是金银有点相似。
“臣以为官铸折二折三,甚至于折五怕是要挖地三尺了,这等从民间掠钱之举岂能真的化解钱荒,臣以为反要民不聊生了……”
吕惠卿反唇相讥道:“陛下,曾布所言的民不聊生,臣看倒是差矣。他不许臣铸折二折三,就是宁可富室豪强私铸钱币,也不许朝廷铸钱,放任让百姓凿剪铜钱,也不许以一当二用之?”
有句话叫一分钱掰成两半来花,这句话不是笑话,民间钱荒到什么地步,就是将铜钱剪成两半来使。
曾布被吕惠卿这句话激得忍不住道:“放任民铸私钱又如何?古时百姓以贝壳为钱币,之后又是以铜钱与金银,这些都是百姓自定,何尝求之于国家?”
“陛下,臣以为放开民间自铸,便可解决钱荒,当年张九龄为相便上疏《敕议放私铸钱》,然为奸相李林甫所阻。”
曾布言下之意自己是张九龄,而主张官铸钱币吕惠卿就是李林甫。
但章越听了曾布这话心道,你真的是被吕惠卿气疯了,这放任民间自铸私币来解决钱荒的问题,也是可以乱说的?
这置朝廷权威于何地?
没错,史书上都是骂李林甫,赞成张九龄,但问题是皇帝最后支持了谁,采用了谁的意见?是谁当了十九年大唐宰相?
如今在官家面前,一个主张官铸货币,一个主张放开私铸货币,你说官家会更信任哪一个?
果真官家听了曾布的话后,脸色就不好看了。
之前他觉得曾布还行,但
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